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The Lakers.
Topic Started: Aug 11 2012, 04:52 AM (1,037 Views)
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Alrite, so a block buster deal just went down yesterday. We looking at a completely new Lakers team.
Starters:
Point Guard: Steve Nash
Shooting Guard: Kobe Bryant
Small Forward: Meta World Peace
Power Forward: Paul Gasol
Center: Dwight Howard

Reserves:
Point Guards: They recently acquired Chris Duhon from the magic. They also have Steve Blake.
Shooting Guards: I actually do not know what shooting guards they have in reserve tbh.
Small Forwards: They recently acquired Earl Clark from the Magic. They also have Matt Barnes.
Power Forwards: Antawn Jamison and Troy Murphy
Centers: Again, idk who they have.

In the Western Conference, they have one foe that they need to worry about. The OKC Thunder. We all saw what happened in the Western Conference Semifinals. They got dominated by Russel Westbrook. The guy was too fast for Kobe and Ramon Sessions. They couldn't stop pick and rolls due to Andrew Bynum's laziness and the fact that he is a horrible defender. They were completely unable to stop James Harden from getting into the paint. Thabo Sefolosha did a great job on Kobe Bryant. He forced him to take tough shots. Meta World Peace was unable to contain Kevin Durant. Paul Gasol was completely ineffective due to Andrew Bynum clogging up the paint. Outside of the starters, the Lakers had nobody to go to. This forced Kobe Bryant to play more minutes. He became ineffective in the fourth quarter, where he normally excels.

During the off-season, the Lakers added Steve Nash. Steve Nash is a great distributor and shooter. However, he will be unable to guard Russel Westbrook like Ramon Sessions. He is simply not quick enough to guard someone like Westbrook. Westbrook's pick and rolls however can be contained, because Dwight Howard is a great defender and is quick enough to help out in those situations. As long as he stays out of foul trouble, they will be able to stop pick and rolls. Dwight Howard in the paint will be able to alter a lot of James Harden's penetration (Yes i said penetration. Get over it). Dwight Howard will force Harden to kick the ball out as long as he stays out of foul trouble of course. Kobe Bryant was forced to take difficult shots, because of the great defense by Thabo Sefolosha. This is where Steve Nash comes in. He will make life much much easier for Kobe. He will get him open shots and not force Kobe to waste his energy. Kevin Durant will still be difficult to be contained. The Lakers did not take steps to stop him. Paul Gasol will also have life a lot easier due to Steve Nash's great passing. Nash can run pick and rolls with Gasol for easy hoops. The Lakers have strengthened there bench adding athletic players like Chris Duhon and veteran Antawn Jamison. More rest for Kobe = Better 4th quarter for Kobe. All in all, the Lakers have a much much better to beat OKC this year.

Now assuming they make it past the Thunder, they will have to deal with a much better team. The Miami Heat. The biggest challenge when facing Miami is guarding the best player in the world. LeBron James. LeBron James is too versatile for the slower Meta World Peace to guard. Dwight Howard will help by altering some of LeBron's drives to the basket, but he could also get into foul trouble. Then the next part is Dwayne Wade. Dwayne Wade will not let Kobe have a peaceful day. He is going to make life tough for him and Nash may not be able to help Kobe get easier shots with a great defender like Wade guarding him. Kobe will get tired trying to get open, which will be costly for the Lakers. Chris Bosh is containable however. Paul Gasol is long and tall. Chris Bosh will have his work cut out for him. Also, the Miami Heat are going to be incredibly confident and LeBron will not be worried about the media anymore. The Miami Heat are the biggest obstacle for the Lakers. I do not believe that the Lakers can beat Miami.

Thoughts?
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I think we match up better against the Heat then the Thunder. IF and a big if Dwight can stay healthy and play to level he is known for he'll shred Miami's center. Nash can play good to okay to whatever point guard they have. Kobe on Wade and Metta World Peace can cover(slow down hopefully) Lebron. They'll have the advantage with Bosh over Gasol seeing as he never plays with effort long enough.

As for the Thunder we just need to do what the heat did and attack attack attack. They're in post defense needs improving and if the Lakers can assemble a good bench we can take them out in 6 or 7 games.

Honestly this is all just on hypotheticals. First need to see how the season plays off before we can really get into the playoffs stand point of things.
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Lol Honestly Im not even that worried about the Lakers in the West. Yes Howard is an upgrade from Bynum but only on the defense side of the ball and for rebounding. Bynum was better in the post by far. Kobe is forever 6/24 Posted Image. Nash is a TOSB but he might still have something left in the tank. Pau is an efficient scorer and decent defensive presence due to his height.

EDIT: Almost forgot about the joke that RON ARTEST has turned into. Fits the TOSB bill all too well.
Edited by KingOfAllSaiyans, Aug 11 2012, 05:02 AM.
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Now that I think about it...we need Phil back. Mike Brown can't coach a star studded team to the championship and I know he did it with Lebron but seriously don't like his gameplans and really think the team thrived in the Triangle system. Bring back the Zen master and we'll be putting up the 17th banner.
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ron artest sucks steve nash and kobe will do better then people think though, still dont see lakers beating okc or heat, probably even lose to chicago if rose is healthy
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Haha...How would we lose to the Bulls if we can't get past OKC. Unless of course you believe they get beat before we face them.

Ron isn't the offensive player he use to be 5 years ago. Heck he isn't what he was in 2010 and he was awful that year. I can imagine Kobe will set the tone and make sure his antics are kept at a minimum. Steve is the most interesting pick up I respect his game even though I hated his time in PHX he'll get the gist of what's going down and fall in line like everyone else.
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Lol Spurs would win in 6 against these Lakers tbh.

Parker scorches Nash everytime they play. Kawhi Leonard can maintain whats left of Kobe (6/24 Posted Image). Danny Green and Manu can easily guard RON ARTEST. Duncan still plays some great defense and can control Pau. Only probably would be Dwight but seeing as how he can barely score with his back to the basket...

EDIT: Wouldnt be surprised to stick Duncan on Howard to rough him up and left Tiago take Gasol.
Edited by KingOfAllSaiyans, Aug 11 2012, 05:22 AM.
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I hope all the Lakers have horrible injuries...

how dare you do this to me Steve..how dare you :'(
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Aug 11 2012, 05:17 AM
Lol Spurs would win in 6 against these Lakers tbh.

Parker scorches Nash everytime they play. Kawhi Leonard can maintain whats left of Kobe (6/24 Posted Image). Danny Green and Manu can easily guard RON ARTEST. Duncan still plays some great defense and can control Pau. Only probably would be Dwight but seeing as how he can barely score with his back to the basket...

EDIT: Wouldnt be surprised to stick Duncan on Howard to rough him up and left Tiago take Gasol.


I think they would. The biggest reason though isn't what you said it's chemistry. Last year we looked like a team having a hard time adjusting to a new system and you could see remittances of old habits in certain players. If the team chemistry is there and I'm unsure of so as long as Mike Brown is leading the team I think we take the spurs in 5.

We've faced a better spurs team with a less talented team. The Spurs of recent have become too attuned to the regular season to remember how to win playoff games. Still it's the off-season and we'll see how the season plays out before anything of essence can be spoken.
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Just saw this on another forum I go too and thought it was worthy of a re-post. Gave me a good laugh.


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EDIT: A certain R word isnt allowed here..
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Aug 11 2012, 05:01 AM
Lol Honestly Im not even that worried about the Lakers in the West. Yes Howard is an upgrade from Bynum but only on the defense side of the ball and for rebounding. Bynum was better in the post by far. Kobe is forever 6/24 Posted Image. Nash is a TOSB but he might still have something left in the tank. Pau is an efficient scorer and decent defensive presence due to his height.

EDIT: Almost forgot about the joke that RON ARTEST has turned into. Fits the TOSB bill all too well.
I swear i could not disagree more. Andrew Bynum does not have half the skill that Dwight Howard has in the post. Andrew Bynum is slow, lazy, and needs alley oops to do anything.
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Aug 11 2012, 11:17 PM
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Lol Honestly Im not even that worried about the Lakers in the West. Yes Howard is an upgrade from Bynum but only on the defense side of the ball and for rebounding. Bynum was better in the post by far. Kobe is forever 6/24 Posted Image. Nash is a TOSB but he might still have something left in the tank. Pau is an efficient scorer and decent defensive presence due to his height.

EDIT: Almost forgot about the joke that RON ARTEST has turned into. Fits the TOSB bill all too well.
I swear i could not disagree more. Andrew Bynum does not have half the skill that Dwight Howard has in the post. Andrew Bynum is slow, lazy, and needs alley oops to do anything.
That sounds exactly like Dwight Howard huh... I USED to be a fan of Dwight and enjoyed watching Orlando Magic games and all he does is get alley oops to score honestly. Dwight has never been a good low post scorer and dont see that changing anytime soon. Bynum could play with his back to the basket though just you didnt see it much when Kobe's going 6/24 and Pau is getting the other touches.

Also considering he is injured and has been injured the entire offseason, he isnt putting in work to make his low post game any better so when he comes back it will be the same Dwight we are used to seeing...if not worse due to his back surgery.
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No, question Andrew was better in the low post. But that's only on nights were he was healthy and was feeling like giving full effort. After it was all said and done his lack of effort is what got him ousted out of L.A. See the losses to the Dallas Mavericks and Oklahoma City Thunder for reasons.
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Not really worried about the Lakers, name wise they look good on paper, but really all your getting is an old Nash good not great anymore. As for Kobe, its seem like old man time has finally caught up with him, also he is a ball hog Nash, will help that a lil bit.

Artest, is trash, Gasol, has lost it, he's just a finesse player now with no defense just a nice height advantage meh, I really don't see that much of an upgrade between Howard and Bynum, in a couple years Bynum will surpass Dwight, book it.

Lol, almost forgot the Lakers have NO BENCH AT ALL, do you really think those ancient players like Kobe, Nash, Ron, Gasol, can play a full game anymore? The answer is NO!

At the end of the NBA season when the Lakers get kicked out of the NBA playoffs early like this year due to an ancient starting 5 (except Dwight) Howard will opt out of his contract and go to Brooklyn and get PAID!

Anyway are there any other Warrior fans other than me here?
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I'm a die hard warriors fan, but i have to root for a California team if the Warriors don't make the play offs. I see your Monte Ellis thing. Not on the warriors anymore LOL.
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